DARTH CHENEY....HASN'T FALLEN OVER THE CLIFF YET!!!!

I have to ask myself, why hasn't this idiot fallen over a cliff yet? He is still trying to pass on his drivel as dyed-in-the-wool tactics - that must be followed. I have stated before that I do not get MSNBC and have to rely on the clips available - and this one had me burning.

Lawrence O'Donnell goes head to head with Joe Scarborough over the Darth's words at some conference from last night. Needless to say, the garbage that Joe is trying to "get out there", just doesn't fly. What part of "the great LIES" does Joe not understand?

Sending our troops into Iraq was formulated and pressed by Cheney, on the illusion of WMD's. For Scarborough to keep saying that Bush/Cheney had the backing of the Dems at the time is true - but if you or I had the same spoon fed information - we would have agreed also. It is those all important details - LIKE FACTS - that would have prevented over 4,000 of our young men's deaths - in a war of convenience for Cheney.

I listen to McCain and his ilk, giving all this strategic thought on how to proceed in Afghanistan and I want to bean him in the head. (I have never trusted McCain - period.) their philosophy is too storm into this mountainous region and KILL!! I do believe these warmongers have deep seated psychological problems with their desire for bloodshed. We can't win a war OVER there. This is "their" territory, and they have the upper hand in such terrain. And why are we there? To kill the remaining 100 Al Queda that are left?

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Dick and daughter Liz must be preparing a future political spot for "the daughter." I've listened to her on various shows, and it is like deja vous - she just echoes the thoughts of daddy - and they make no sense whatsoever. She has argued that torture is fine, it produced so much vital information (which has been proven otherwise) - so I suggest that Dick and Liz (throw in Hannity for good measure), submit to the tortures that he encouraged, and see how they fare then!

I say, bring our troops home - this is a senseless war and one we cannot win. Wars have been raging in these countries for many centuries - they appear to thrive on battle.

Where is it written that it is the charge of the USA to set forth what type of government is best for some of these countries? The strength of the Taliban has been estimated between 7 and 11,000 - and we have three times that many troops there now! Senseless and insane - bring our young men home and defend our country from our shores.

As for Dick and Liz - I suggest the proverbial long walk off a short pier!

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Joe Scarborough says FUCK on MSNBC!!! Wow!!

I saw this earlier today, and was totally amazed at how oblivious Joe was, after saying the F*** bomb! You can see everyone else "got it" - and then Joe blames it on Ambien???? And is constantly saying, after confronted, "If" I said that - multiple times.

Makes for an eye opening moment.

I'm not arguing with the Iraq vets.....surprising view!

I do not get MSNBC on my cable and I do like Rachel Maddow...listening to this Iraq war vet was very informative. I do believe that McMuffin man believes he has ALL vets in his back pocket....I don't think so.